Hard? no. Boring? YES!

If you are trying to tell me that its not one of the most boring elements in this game (a problem in itself being this is a VIDEO GAME that should not be boring) than you are delusional or easily entertained.

Also why do you even have such a problem with people using a semi afk ishtar hmmm? if they choose to be AFK and make themselves easier targets to kill than how is that a bad thing?

Its not just forsaken hubs, its happening in havens too.

I like how this thread is full of people who dont live in null shitting on 'afktars' because nullbears makes too much money.

Null income for line members is actually pretty low comparatively. 15-20m ticks are the norm. Forget incursions, you can make more tahn that running level 4 missions with practically zero risk. In null however you cant always rat because there are roaming gangs, so that cuts down your isk/hr and you have to pay for the ships you lose. If you dont have a hauler alt the cost of replacing them (if you can find one on the market at all) is usually 50%+ higher than in HS.

I live in null because my corp moved there, not because its some promised land of isk.

Yes drones are relatively replaceable, but you can only fit so many in your drone bay.

If this is an intended change its not one thats making the game any more 'challenging' for nullbears, its just breaking that aspect of the game and killing that playstyle.

Other than taht i have mining and PI. now tehre are some high skill/activity intensive gameplay mechanics if ever ive heard them!

Or maybe i could do hauling. Wow, the options for fun gameplay are astounding.

The truth is EVE is a game about grinding and min/maxing for long periods, to experience bursts of fun. Im not going to run out and become someone elses content just because my preferred isk grinding method got nerfed and neitehr will the rest of the nullbears, we'll find a way to make money, and who knows, it might be the way that you make isk, and all of a sudden profits might drop and ccp might nerf that next.

What is "far away" for you? 10km? 20km? Or even 30km?

There's a flip side to enemy NPCs being more aggressive with drones, but if no one's figured it out...

I've been running anoms in null in a Domi for years. I'll admit I've never looked for a way to afk anoms so it would not be impossible for a way to exist that I am unaware of, however I don't see how anyone could have AFKed anoms for years now. The drone aggro mechanics from several years ago has made it so that I am consantly having to recall my sentries and redeploy them even warping to 100 KM.

So my real question is do we know for sure that AFK anom running has been a thing or are you speculating?

I'm just curious because I'm reading this and don't see how it's possible.

I think its pretty obvious that this is just a bug and not a ninja nerf, as somebody else said its probably due to the new operation frostline sites. Also the fact that the drone aggro is only bugged in some systems and fine in others which i can also confirm as being true.

Anyways a whole lot of GRR "AFK" ratting going on with not a single person being able to explain why someone ratting semi afk is bad for the game?

I mean if they are afk or semi afk that makes them pretty easy to kill right? so go kill them instead of crying about it.

uhhh what? when did i say that?

AFK farm and mine in hi sec all you want i dont care, easier to gank as well

I don't know about missions, but I'm still encountering this on Forsaken Hubs and Havens in nullsec. It's definitely not fixed. My ship rarely even gets attacked. They just keep targeting the drones.

Hello everybody,

I have been investigating this issue this week, and wanted to drop by with a report. Thanks to everyone submitting bug reports on this, it's been helpful to include what drones you were using and what NPCs you were up against.

So here is where we are at. We have made no conscious change to NPC aggression against drones or players. This then means either their behavior has changed through an unintended change to the game, or nothing has actually changed at all.

At first I could not identify anything has changed, and after reading this forum thread I am still continuing to investigate until we have a identified an answer for you.

Now, some clarifications on how to expect an NPC choose to attack since Retribution based on the discussion here.

• NPCs are aware of signature radius.
• NPCs are aware of when you are tanking.
• NPCs are aware of where the damage is coming from (from a ship, or from a drone).

I will reply when I have more information if we identify an issue was introduced in the December (Operation Frostline) release.

EDIT: If anyone wants to record a Youtube video of their activities where you believe your Drones are being attacked too much, please feel free to do so. This will help even more.

so just a troll or cant read? Maybe both?

One DEV has already stated this is not intentional, and even more people have stated this bug does not happen all the time and is mostly not a problem.

So that means i can now AFKtar with my 10 accounts at once. Does this make you mad little boy? You want to come out to my blue donut AFK farm and PVP me? Oh wait.

In case anybody missed it, the dev edited his post to say they might be onto something

So anyone who tries to earn ISK in the game is a nullbear? How do you fund your PvP activities? Do you just buy plexes all the time? if so, good for you. I rat between fleets and solo PvP. That does not make me a "nullbear". You should probably check your definition.

Yes, you can use other ships. So now we're going to make drone ships obsolete and no one will use those. Is that an ideal solution? I don't think CCP really wants that. Who wants to use a ship that takes twice as long to do the same site because you keep losing/pulling drones all the time? We're not looking for an AFK solution, which frankly, you can't do in nullsec anyway. We just want to be able to do sites without the drones constantly getting destroyed or having to pull and release them because that's the ONLY thing the rats attack.

You're just trolling and it doesn't help. Get a hobby. Or, go play EVE. I don't care, just GTFO with your shitposts.